Monday, April 19, 2010

It is too strange, is Eden real?

I read this part of the creation story over and over and never really paid attention to it.  I read this many times, but never really understood it, so I assumed it made sense to someone.  Well, it would take a lot of manipulation to make this place real in a literal reading.


Genesis Chapter 2 verses 10 - 13
 10 A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters. 11 The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12 (The gold of that land is good; aromatic resin and onyx are also there.) 13 The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush. 14 The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east side of Asshur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates. (NI*V)

This place exists?  Headwaters (let's assume the Bible is accurate for this argument) mean the river's source, usually the headwaters are lakes or glaciers or snow capped peaks, Eden is none of these.  In ancient summerian, Edin meant wilderness or desert, in the Bible, Eden is the place where God puts his garden.  So out in the desert, somewhere, there are headwaters?  Okay, let us suppose this is ture (or Eden is way up a mountain somewhere).  Two of the rivers begin close to each other, in Turkey.  One of the rivers is in Saudi Arabia and the last one is in Africa (Sudan).  Hmmm, and they all share a headwater source, which originates in the land of Eden and flows through the garden.  Some river, covering three continents (we'll keep Turkey in Europe for Geographical reasons), all with different drainage basins.  This doesen't exist.  Even if we switched 'headwaters' for the river's ends.  If Eden doesn't exist, am I expected to take this chapter literally?



It is interesting to read what people do to make this place real:


Here is an account that insists we can use the Red Sea as a river:
http://www.kjvbible.org/rivers_of_the_garden_of_eden.html


This one says we can use the Persian Gulf as a river's source:
http://ldolphin.org/eden/


Wikipedia says we really don't know, but it does follow Sumerian creation myths:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_of_Eden


Here is an interesting Youtube video on the subject and possible location - it deals with the "fall of Man" but has some maps that would place it SE of Ur.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRMyzBZbS1Q&feature=related


If we allow Eden to be a Mesopotamian place, remember, Edin means the wild step in the Sumerian language, it may well refer to the lands around Mesopotamia.

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